christine~ (eppylover) wrote in the_fifthbeatle,

Eppy vs G Martin

From THIS POST on eppylover's journal, Oct 10, 2005
~*~*~ To My Dear Friends Who Believe George Martin is the Fifth Beatle ~*~*~

My brave attempt to sway your opinion is as follows:
I love Sir George Martin. It is my firm conviction that George Martin is an honorary Beatle by virtue of his contribution to their music, which I do agree was utterly essential, and it's entirely within the realm of possibility that they may not have made it without him... however, I feel that Eppy would have found them another (albeit less capable) musical mentor, and would have made sure they became "bigger than Elvis" nonetheless!

It speaks volumes for me that, on a few occasions, George Martin admits that he was contemplating leaving them for a "better" job, with no regrets evident. According to Geoffrey Ellis,
"Once, over a convivial lunch, which happened to follow a frustrating session with the Boys, he burst out to me 'Sometimes, when a reporter asks me for a quote on what the Beatles are really like, I'm tempted to answer: they're still the same stupid arrogant bastards they always were'."
I Should Have Known Better - A Life In Pop Management, Page 51
In contrast to George Martin's statement, even though Brian had often been criticized, taunted, humiliated and treated cruelly by the boys (especially John), he took it in his stride and would never, ever have even dreamed of bad-mouthing them, to anyone, no matter what. George Martin did not have the boys in his heart and soul like Brian Epstein did. Brian lived for and was devoutly dedicated to the Beatles in the same way that (nay, even MORE than) they were supportive of each other. Brian may not have been capable of doing what Martin had done musically, but George Martin would never have been capable of being what Brian was for them, ever, ever, ever.
"I must add that Sir George was very clear in expressing the importance of Brian Epstein in making the Beatles the Beatles
and that when he died, so did the dream -- they all knew it would never be the same."
George Martin, Dick James, and Brian Epstein
Sir George Martin himself says he would never have taken on the Beatles if it hadn't been for Brian Epstein's constant unshakable belief in them. The Beatles were a part of Brian. And it was proven that Brian was a part of the Beatles when he died, because the Beatles were unable to survive for very long without him.
If that's not being a real Beatle, what is?

As much as I admire George Martin, he was not the Fifth Beatle. I would readily agree to calling him The LIVING Fifth Beatle, how's that for compromise?
George Martin would not have died for them.
And you know damn well that Brian Epstein would have,
no questions asked!!!
It seems to me that people who think anyone else but Brian could possibly be called
a "Fifth Beatle" just aren't Beatle scholars and don't know the full real story.

Tags: beatles, brian epstein, george martin

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